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Firestorm on SL Go!

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Can your computer get 50FPS in a crowded region with a draw distance of 256 at full ultra with shadows graphics settings? It can now! For several months now we have been quietly working with OnLive towards the goal of giving users a way to use Firestorm on computers and mobile devices with OnLive’s SL Go app. Gah! It’s been so hard keeping a secret!


OnFire!!!

We are very excited to announce that OnLive has just released Firestorm in their SL Go app, allowing you to run it on your PCs, Mac computers and soon on mobile devices! What’s most exciting about this is how it enables residents on older computers and less capable laptops to experience Second Life and Opensim on ultra graphics without spending hundreds or thousands to upgrade their systems. It’s an affordable way for everyone to experience the full potential and beauty of SL with high framerates and great performance! You can read the official OnLive press release http://www.onlive.com/news/pressreleases/1696

 

How it works…

Onlive is essentially a streaming service. They host Firestorm and the SL Viewer on their many servers and stream video of a viewer’s interface and graphics to your computer screen while relaying your key and mouse inputs back to the viewer. This allows you to use graphically intensive games and applications without weighting down your own computer. In many ways it is like a remote desktop allowing you to manipulate the computer you are connected to with your own computer or mobile device. And since the computers on which OnLive hosts Firestorm are very high-end machines, you can run SL with full ultra graphics, shadows and everything without the drop in performance that highly detailed graphics usually cause!

In this first version for OnLive you may find a few things disabled. For example, file pickers have been disabled, settings backup/restore cannot be used yet, voice is disabled etc. But rest assured in near future iterations these will be fixed and enabled again to work on your local machine, providing you the ability to save snapshots to your computer and upload from it. It is our hope that near-full functionality of the Firestorm Viewer will be a reality very soon. We have prepared a wiki section to answer most questions you may have: http://wiki.phoenixviewer.com/onlive

 

Firestorm Mobile coming soon! For real this time!

A couple of years ago we fooled a great many of you with the April Fools Day joke “Firestorm Mobile for Tablets, Smart phones and Stupid phones!” The excitement over the idea of a mobile Firestorm, as well as the outcry when everyone realized it wasn’t true, were somewhat overwhelming to put it mildly. It became very evident that there really are a great many of you who would absolutely love the ability to run Firestorm with its full interface on your mobile devices. The good news is that OnLive is making this capability a reality very soon, and that is no joke!

 

It isn’t free, but is very affordable!

Obviously OnLive has to pay for their servers, bandwidth, technology and staff, so this service is not free the way the volunteer-run Firestorm Project is. But at US$9.95 a month it sure is a lot cheaper than upgrading your computer to new hardware. OnLive offers a free, cancel anytime 7-day trial so we encourage you to give it a go! http://slgo.onlive.com/

As a show of their appreciation for the business, OnLive has offered to pay for a translation service in Firestorm Viewer. This will work in both the OnLive Firestorm version and our own, which will allow everyone to once again have an automatic translation system running in Firestorm full time. We hope to have that implemented in our next release.

Q&A!

We expect you will all have many questions, so on Sunday, December 21st, we will be hosting a very special Q&A in our auditorium at 1pm SLT. The event will be streamed live, recorded and transcribed for those who cannot attend. Here is the location: http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Phoenix%20Firestorm%20Support/169/128/4002

Stay tuned to our blog for updates on this.

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  • I tried it out, and it doesn’t even let me use it because my latency is too high. I live in Australia, i am used to high latency games, and have been dealing with it for a long time, but this is the first time something has refused to let me use their service because of this high latency. Do not tell me that i must move half way across the world to use your service when playing an international game!

    Pheonix9261

    December 17, 2014

  • Size is too small. a pitty for such power
    But worst of all:
    I cannot type! I am with a swiss-french keyboard and a Y becomes a Z and a A becomes a Q…. etc. there is nothing I can do but re-learn to type with letters not where they usually are 🙂 too much for me.

    I will for sure keep informed though. It might become, if someone wants, a really great service.
    Not yet.

    lucie

    December 18, 2014

  • To my previous post I would like to add, that my keyboard issue that seems to not be an issue for the majority which I find strange (have been looking for 15 minutes for the question mark didn’t find it yet) goes to the point that on my laptop that I use without a mouse, ctrl click doens’t make a right click. So I cannot edit, I cannot change clothes, I can’t do anything requiring right click…. you can imagine… ((any tips about this issue please are welcome))

    Beside that, I have read many very hostile posts that I don’t understand. I think it is a great project and I thank you for working on it. I am truly looking forward for the improvements

    lucie

    December 20, 2014

  • Lucy, this sounds like something Onlive may be able to help with. Drop them an email at support@onlive.com and they’ll get back to you.

    Jessica Lyon

    December 20, 2014

  • At first it worked great for me using the Firestorm viewer option; however, after a few uses it stopped working entirely for the Firestorm option and I have been unable to login to the Firestorm option for over two weeks with different error codes each time I’ve tried.
    I do like the SLGo option however and will just use it in busy areas with the Second Life Viewer option while using the regular Firestorm viewer for building purposes.

    Sihn Ishtari

    January 3, 2015

  • I forgot to add that I submitted multiple tickets to OnLive support, the latter of which reads in response from them:
    “We do not have an update on when Firestorm will be running smoothly for all users. Our engineers are working as quickly as they can to make sure everything is running as it should be.

    Regards,

    Jeremy
    Customer Service Representative”

    So it seems that they are trying and I am holding out to see when it works because I’m a loyal firestorm user and I love SLGo thus far!

    Sihn Ishtari

    January 3, 2015

  • i like firestorm better because it works better

    blazesprowler1980

    April 15, 2015

  • So now we can effectivily run 100s and 100s of bots to populate ones near empty sim! yeah… \o/ I hope this is a game changer… but SL needs more than this they need to make the rent dam affordable.

    randypella

    December 16, 2014

  • Ok signed up, paid and downloaded onto my PC now how does it work. has no mention of Second Life or Firestorm anywhere???

    Ziggy Starsmith

    December 16, 2014

  • Ziggy if you are still having problems with this, you need to email Support@onlive.com . This will automatically create an Onlive support ticket.

    Whirly Fizzle

    December 16, 2014

  • Oh, sweet. I love SL Go, but I can’t stand the Second Life Viewer’s interface.

    Shining Wing

    December 16, 2014

  • It sure is affordable, but the ridiculously fast connection to use it without being kicked out of the servers isn’t. which is a lose 🙁

    SNAKE Topaz

    December 16, 2014

  • Onlive states 5 Mbps, wired connection or Wi-Fi connection, as the recommended connection speed.
    (ref: https://onlive1.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/34/kw/minimum%20connection%20speed).

    My connection isn’t much faster then this (http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/3990267553) and I don’t have problems with getting disconnected from the Onlive service or using SLGO.

    Whirly Fizzle

    December 16, 2014

  • too bad it doesn’t work or there servers are very unresponsive. if there going to lag that badly how is it going to load SL

    Wes

    December 16, 2014

  • How is it not working for you Wes?
    If you are having problems the best thing to do is contact Onlive support directly via Support@onlive.com

    Whirly Fizzle

    December 16, 2014

  • I tried this before and the graphic quality is terrible. Objects had their shapes and colors blurred due to the low resolution this streaming service offers.

    BillFish

    December 16, 2014

  • I just tried it (PC Win version) and I agree. Horrible resolution and with my Alienware Aurora tower and dual GPU’s I can run true “Ultra” at high FPS anyway witht he normal viewers. Might be ok for a tablet though. Will try it on my iPad and see. 🙂

    Ziggy Alcott

    December 17, 2014

  • agreed. the increased performance is negated by the poor resolution

    Arazmus Moonwall

    December 29, 2014

  • 10 bucks a month for another viewer. no free accounts available.
    it takes more to convince me…

    Quiltora

    December 16, 2014

  • I agree don’t want to spend $10 more for SL

    Darlean Fairymeadow

    December 21, 2014

  • I agree! I think 10 bucks a month is a bit much, which is why I never used the service. If I could pay 10 a month, surely I could put another 10 with that that and just save for a better computer (laughs)

    MamiChulaa

    April 4, 2015

  • This actually sounds pretty cool. I’m assuming it basically runs the viewer on it’s really fast hardware with it’s large pipe bandwidth and streams the rendered video to your system. This would put very little load on your own graphics card or CPU since all you’re doing is displaying a web page.

    While I don’t really need it, as my desktop runs SL just fine, I can see where lots of others would gain from this. $10 a month is pretty reasonable especially if that gained access to their other offerings. A pay by the hour setup would be cool, but I guess they have to stabilize their income. Now if they’d just accept L$ as payment. 😉

    One little nitpick, It can’t run at a true 50FPS. The max actual bandwidth SL can provide under perfect conditions is 45fps. Anything more is just duplicating frames.

    Cim Mip

    December 16, 2014

  • Framerates above 45fps still interpolate animations, most types of camera movements, particle system updates, body physics, object physics and other movements at more than 45fps. The benefits of a higher framerate are very visible.

    It’s true that the simulator maxes out at 45fps and that object updates don’t come more quickly. But the client isn’t frame locked to server activity.

    Brian

    December 27, 2014

  • Yeah, the actual graphics quality is going to be highly dependent upon how good your internet connection is – it’s going to require a *lot* more bandwidth than a viewer.

    (In my case, where I can’t even view Youtube videos in anything better than 360p, it’s useless.)

    Redwood Rhiadra

    December 16, 2014

  • Ok finally figured this out, tried it and it was a disgrace. Horrible blurred graphics, more lag than ever and no improvements for anything. Graphics and Frame rates no change.
    Please avoid this at all costs people it was horrific and it never saved my settings and it freezes your computer on log off and needed to reboot whole computer.
    Use the regular Firestorm viewer and just get a better computer if needed, nothings free.

    Ziggy Starsmith

    December 16, 2014

  • The only graphics problems are blurring when the bandwidth speed isn’t quite up to scratch. A bit like when Netflix compensates for a lower speed by reducing the picture quality. Since I changed to a High speed cable connection (Speedtest gives me about 9mbps to SL servers ) it all looks like I’m running SL on a top range PC instead of a 3 yeard old laptop that was only mid range when new. I’ve been using SL GO since it first came out and love it. In fact, when I DJ or attend a big event I always use SL GO but hate the interface. Now I’ve got my FSOL set up just like my regular FS desktop viewer and it’s brilliant. I imagine I will be logging in with this much more now.

    Mondy

    December 16, 2014

  • I test this new SL Go. Within Firestorm runing LIveGoI have full ultra graphics and nice FPS.
    But here it ends. The Viewer nterface or what I see in LIveGo window looks as VGA 600×400, very low resolution, all is blured and mouse moves as in honey. Its like you would start your SL using your system VGA 600×400 resolution with huge mouse pointer.
    So til I find IF I can acctually independent configurate LiveGo application via Nvidia Control Panel to run in decent resolution using Firestorm on SL GO I cant think of using it at all

    Dee Dee

    December 16, 2014

  • Only works with fiber optics connected to your brains.

    MarianoGT

    December 16, 2014

  • I tried it. Resolution is blurry. Performance is lower than my home machine (3 years old). To be honest it’s not worth 10$ a month. At least not yet.

    Kevin Davis

    December 16, 2014

  • Charging $10/month for a viewer when people whine about tier and the cost of items in SL is going to be an uphill battle. Frankly, if you can afford $10/month and the cost of the highspeed internet it needs to give you the best graphics you would be money ahead if you spent the same money on a good gaming computer to run SL at the same graphics level and enjoy the side benefit of having that same top end computer available to make your other computing tasks much more enjoyable.

    Cincia Singh

    December 16, 2014

  • What, how do you figure? Even if the total was $50/mo more total it would take years to equal a $1200 computer investment.

    DoomRater

    January 1, 2015

  • Hmm some people seem to have great results others not so. I wonder though why those who have had difficulties are so quick to tell others not to bother. With a seven day free trial what’s to lose and it may well run great for you. Playing the “whose server in the path sucks” game is silly if we cant see a traceroute and get some testing results and it is still specific to a particular machine and path through the net. I have no ax to grind here I’m wired and run at ultra all the time on my fairly basic pc so I won’t use this but I will certainly recommend a trial for those on slower PCs, but not on slower net connections. Remember that 5 Mbps is the recommended speed between your PC and the net, not your modem, which may serve more than one device in your home.

    Georgie Tunsgten

    December 16, 2014

  • Gave it a try. Moment I put the graphics on to the advanced lighting model (needed to see shiny maps) it got blurry and stayed that way. And when I changed it back, it stayed that way. For whatever reason this made the stream less stable. I understand a little every now and then, and it’s going to be dependent on the net connection and strength of the stream on their end too… but it just didn’t work out. As much as it could be a fix for me and my mac framerate lag right now, I gave it a shot and didn’t like it. I’ll be continuing to wait for LL to fix the big Mac bug :/

    If someone has a better net connection, this service really might be for them. It looked promising… just isn’t up to what I’d want to be putting money in to.

    Gem

    December 16, 2014

  • How much more bandwidth will this use compared to the actual viewer. My concern is going over the allowed bandwidth I get in a month. The viewer doesn’t seem to take up much. But since you’re getting it through streaming now im wondering if this will be like watching a 5 hour movie on netflix.

    Jon

    December 16, 2014

  • The service bandwidth requirements are comparable to watching a movie for the entire time you’re logged into SL. If you have a metered connection of any sort, avoid.

    DoomRater

    January 1, 2015

  • Meh. I’ll keep using my own hardware and log into my free second life account without a 3rd party pay wall and have high definition.

    Wolfee Yaffle

    December 17, 2014

  • Wolfee,

    Did someone recommend you use SLGO instead of using your already adequate system? That is not what SLGo is for. If you are getting good quality Using SLGo won’t make that better and will likely use more bandwidth to achieve nothing. SLGo is for people with lower end graphics capabilities and a decent net connection, not for people who are able to run SL well already.

    Scratching my head,
    Georgie

    Georgie Tunsgten

    December 18, 2014

  • well that’s cool but it’s still firestorm . tried it as well and it was blurry on a 100mbit line, had a bad resolution and bad fps, just like the original.

    sumara

    December 17, 2014

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  • Some say you need good interned speed to use it.. like optical. Its myth. I tested on 50Mbs and LiveGo app didnt used more than 2-4Mbs max maybe 6Mbs. Imagine watching low resolution 320p movie on youtube and playing sl in it. So low is qualiety.
    I believe its ok for 4-8″ screens like pads but anything over 15″ screen like laptop will be blurr. Forget about using on 24″ desktop monitors.
    You cant change super fast mouse movement, even in your OS system. It dont effect LiveGo where you play your SL. Mouse speed is so fast that you really cant click viewer buttons. Forget editing your clothes. Not mention the enormouse size of mouse pointer.
    However if you are so desper to be on sl and graphic qualiety is second for you this solution is good.

    Dee Dee

    December 17, 2014

  • I beta tested OnLive briefly but withdrew. Conceptually, it’s a great idea, but concepts don’t always translate very well. Try to imagine the full Firestorm GUI scrunched onto a phone or tablet screen; then try to imagine even finding a menu option. I’ve not tried it on a full PC platform (that wasn’t what they were beta testing), and it may translate better. It works and will be a good solution for many, but don’t get your hopes up that it is “mobile Firestorm” unless you have better than 20/20 vision or Firestorm makes a simplified GUI…

    Djeaux Farrasco

    December 17, 2014

  • Hey, it’s Dennis from OnLive. I’d like to clarify a few things:

    RESOLUTION
    SL Go streams at 720p (not 320, not 1080). If you use full-screen, it will be like watching 720p movie full screen. OnLive has some great adaptive streaming technology that attempts to preserve the image stream, even on lossy networks. If you see the screen occasionally go fuzzy, the software is attempting to deliver you a smooth experience even when your internet is less than optimal.

    BANDWIDTH
    You do not need a massive bandwidth to run SL Go. As Whirly said, 5 mbps is recommended for a good experience. What kills the streaming experience are lossy networks where packets are lost. If you have a number of other devices on your shared network, or have demanding network apps running the background, it will definitely affect SL Go. My Sonos music system makes SL Go very sad.

    TARGET USERS
    I will be first to admit the SL Go is not for everyone. We are not an alternate TPV. If you have a great machine, you don’t need us. If you have a 10 year old PC running XP, where Firestorm barely runs and crashes often, SL Go gives you an affordable way to “upgrade” your machine and experience Second Life that is impossible on your old machine.

    Sorry for the long response. We are very open to suggestions and comments. Thanks for all the honest feedback.

    Dennis

    December 17, 2014

  • Hi Dennis,
    I appreciate your comment, and hope you see this as constructive, and not just whining and complaining…
    I am running an older computer that was (at one time) a fairly good gamer. I am still running XP, so haven’t upgraded my graphics card in 5 years or so (newer all require Win7 – which I HATE). This seemed the perfect solution.
    First issue – I needed to give my payment info PRIOR to testing the 7 day trial. But I accepted that, worth it to try, I guess…
    Second issue – you now have my SL password – not quite sure how I feel about that yet… but I trusted you with my payment info, so what the hey 🙂
    Now i get to try it… and as mentioned above – the graphics are so blurry as to be annoying. The chat and IM print is so fuzzy as to be unreadable, unless font size is set to HUGE. Forget about reading hovertext – as there is no way to increase the size. Window dialog is a fuzzy line.
    Shutting down requires task manager – otherwise all freezes until Hell melts.
    OK – i can live with all that… if i have to…
    But now, after 2 days, either it cannot start Firestorm, or cannot connect to a server (my own FS can connect no problem, so it’s not FS or SL that’s the issue).
    One benefit, I guess, is I’m getting very quick with the preferences screens, as I need to reset them with (almost) each new log-in (when I CAN log-in).
    So… where do I go from here?
    Is there something more I can do on my end?
    Is the problem on your end? Perhaps due to the sudden increase of users due to FS pushing it through log-in screen? Is it likely to improve within my remaining 5 days or should I pay for a month trial?

    Portia Valeska

    December 19, 2014

  • *oops – forgot to add – the framerate was awesome, and the crashes (usually 2-3/hour on busy sims) disappeared! So there are 2 GREAT reasons to keep my fingers crossed!

    Portia Valeska

    December 19, 2014

  • Portia, thank you for your great comments.

    First, I assure you that we do not know your SL password, or even Avatar name. Your password in encrypted in your user settings, and we do not log keystrokes or any other evil thing. Big brother is not watching you.

    Sorry to hear of your poor video quality. The internet is a fickle place, and the quality of your personal connection will greatly affect the video stream. You might try setting OnLive client to the maximum bandwidth of 12 mbps, using the Advanced Settings on the OnLive login screen.

    Also, you shouldn’t use the Task Manager to shutdown. You may lose any settings you recently changed. You should shutdown Firestorm just like you normally would: Avatar > Exit Firestorm and it will gracefully close.

    As for the launching problems, these were “growing pains” for us, and I apologize for the frustration. However, we have a new version that seems to have corrected the vast majority of these cases. Give it a try again now.

    And always remember… we are not forcing anyone to use SL Go. Firestorm is free and will always be so. You can cancel your subscription at any time, even immediately after you sign up for the trial (I shouldn’t have said that). If you cancel before the trial end, you will never be charged.

    Thanks again! I really hope you give it another try.

    Dennis

    January 14, 2015

  • Will there eventually be the ability to run multiple sessions? I seem to only be able to run one instance at a time.

    Jericho

    December 20, 2014

  • Hey Dennis. 5mbps may sound like a modest connection but there are many places in the US where people struggle to afford 1mbps, if it’s even offered! That said, I’m sure it runs super smoothly when that much bandwidth is available.

    DoomRater

    January 1, 2015

  • […] I’d actually forgotten all about this until I saw a post on New World Notes : SL Go Streaming Now Available Through PC/Mac Versions of Firestorm, Second Life’s Most Popular Viewer. SL GO can now be used with Firestorm as the client. This is further explained by the Firestorm team themselves in their own blog post : Firestrom On SL GO! […]

  • So if I decide to save a few hundred bucks for a few extra years, before paying it anyway, I can go here and pay $120 a year to continue using what was a free service? Ummm, thanks?

    5 or years on this would cost me as much as a SL-ready computer.

    It gets even worse if all you need is a memory or part upgrade.

    Adam

    December 17, 2014

  • Tried this, am logged into it right now. Graphics is absolutely terrible. I get better graphics using the regular viewer.

    Tried to cancel the 7 days – but not allowing me to. Go figure. I’m trapped into paying for this crap.

    Lara

    December 17, 2014

  • Lara, contact Support@onlive.com if you need help cancelling your subscription.

    Whirly Fizzle

    December 17, 2014

  • OnLive has always been a fairly terrible service based on their pricing and connection. I can’t even get a relatively old X360 game to play nice on my Nexus 7. OnLive is pretty much one of those services that are for people with money to burn. It’s certainly not an accessible service for people living at poverty level.

    My question is about the mobile Firestorm for android. Will it also cost a monthly fee or will it be free like Firestorm for PC? Because I’m quite frankly sick of every blasted SL viewer trying to make a buck off of mobile users.

    Anonymous

    December 17, 2014

  • Dear Anonymous (if THAT is your real name),
    Which TPV is trying to make money off of mobile users? Are we talking about the mobile apps out there that are not free like Lumiya? I don’t believe anyone, TPV or otherwise “owes” me free anything. I include Linden Labs as well.
    I count myself fortunate that LL allows me to access for free, I am also incredibly fortunate that the people at FS donate their time to this project and charge me nothing. A lot of what I’m hearing here from so many others sounds a lot like the voice of entitlement as if anyone should provide anyone else with anything for free.
    I’m all for people doing their part to feed the hungry and heal the sick but I don’t think I can legitimately say that I would encourage those who do help the hungry and sick to redirect their donations to the “Make sure anonymous gets to do everything anonymous wants to for free” fund.
    SLGo may well suck for all I know but I believe the market will teach them any lessons they may need to learn, up to and including a FAIL if the product truly answers no one’s needs.
    I hope that they prosper as this will mean a good number of people are finding value for their money.

    Another commented on the viability of upgrading one’s PC vs using SLGo and I would heartily recommend that anyone who has the option do so. Upgrading your PC will have benefits beyond Second Life. I myself am running on a pc I built for less than 700 dollars and I am able to run SL at Ultra. My graphics card is a GTX 650.
    Oh I almost forgot the comment from someone else about spam on log on OMFG OMFG OMFG did they make you read that OMFG are you okay! Did that SPAM get loose in your home? Kill a puppy? Eat your child? If this is a major problem for you , count yourself lucky. Some people have problems even greater than these, believe it or not.
    Wide eyed with wonder,
    Georgie

    Georgie Tunsgten

    December 18, 2014

  • That ^

    Jessica Lyon

    December 18, 2014

  • Yes, that. What a bunch of ungrateful morons. The more time I spend on SL, the more I am convinced the vast majority of the people on it are idiots. To the developers: thank you for your work and don’t listen to the fools–hell, don’t even bother trying to correct their illiterate delusions. They aren’t worth the trouble and, frankly, SL is better off with them crashing constantly and not able to log in.

    caseywollberg

    March 26, 2015

  • As I’m sure you are already aware, we do not charge for all the work we do for you, but we don’t make a mobile version of the viewer either. Though your comment about being sick of developers making a buck off of mobile users… Based on that comment I’m guessing that means you must work for free. So I’m just wondering what it is you do for a living for free, so as that I might take advantage of you as you seem to want to do from mobile developers. On the other hand, if you do not work for free.. then I’m sick of people like you trying to make a buck of people!

    See where I’m going with this? Perhaps you should be grateful that there even are mobile options at your disposal. We inherited the viewer code from LL and modify it, where mobile developers have to write their code from scratch and I can assure you they are not getting rich from the pennies they charge.

    Jessica Lyon

    December 18, 2014

  • Look this is obviously not for everyone, and it was stated that it was also an option for people using “OLDER” computers. This means it was not stated, for people running computers like mine that are use graphics cards like a Nvidia GTX 650 TI Boost or higher graphics card. This is meant more for someone, using an older duel core with something like an old GT 6500. Or for someone who is using an iPhone, or other smart phone that has an app that are just text based clients.

    And when you bitch and complain about things, it becomes a very discouraging things for Developers, Support Staff, Skin Artist and Beta Testers alike from doing jack to provide anything for you ungrateful lot. As all I see right now, is a bunch of post that the majority of which are from ungrateful people who are just out to bitch and complain because they can. This just proves yet again, that you lot do not read or care to pay attention to what you do read. As I have a sister who has a computer that is near 10 years old, and this might be a way to help her keep using SL so she can see her family. Just like it is a way that my ex could use it to come see our children, because they also have a 10 year old computer.

    As not everyone has held jobs like I have, where they worked at IBM or Apple, Dell or even 3M that pays a decent wage. Such a waist to try to help a bunch of people, who are ungrateful for the effort that an entire team of people put in so others can enjoy the simple pleasures of life.

    animorf Kawadias

    December 17, 2014

  • +1

    Jessica Lyon

    December 18, 2014

  • I hope Firestorm got paid well enough for putting this spam on my login screen.

    etic

    December 18, 2014

  • SL Go is only available for citizens of USA and Canada…..It sounds like a very exciting project and I am sure the developers worked very hard and should be congratulated on their achievement. But please be aware that folks in Australia like myself already get a really bad deal in many cases in SL so it is really disappointing to see that once again we will be locked out of an exciting idea that involves SL. We can’t even ring SL billing or use Live Chat for support. None of these are the fault of the wonderful folks at FS but I feel I have to mention this exclusivity that quarantines off SL users who are not American. If you have any influence on SL Go please let them know how we feel about all this. This is not to criticise the major achievement this is but please acknowledge that the excitement is really for the USA and Canada – the rest of the world are not part of this…and even when this reaches Europe I am willing to bet that Australia will still be forgotten. I do worry that eventually SL or SLGo will just be one big American and Canadian virtual world. I’d love to use SL GO. Congratulations on its incorporation of Firestorm and thank you for all your work for the citizens of SL 🙂

    Arton Tripsa

    December 18, 2014

  • Arton, it is my understanding that SLGO is available in Australia and I know for sure it is also available in most of Europe as well.

    Jessica Lyon

    December 18, 2014

  • According to their FAQs it’s not available in Australia or many countries outside US/Canada and some European countries – https://slgo.onlive.com/faq. I had terrible latency issues with it in the UK so it certainly won’t be usable in Australia or Japan on that front alone.

    Hitomi Tiponi

    December 19, 2014

  • Not working in Germany.

    https://onlive1.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/107

    It says Error A508. AFTER the registration. And i cant manage my account. Thats crap. Contacted support for deleting my account (incl. CC-Data).

    :/

    Andrion Acker

    December 18, 2014

  • Sl go is probably made more for mobile then regular pc. That isn’t to say it can’t be fine tuned as they go to work well for everyone. Things may improve quickly for the pc option after all it just came out. As it is it’s something as already stated that will let people who have trouble coming on sl get on.. It also provides the opportunity for a firestorm mobile viewer which I am looking forward to and probably run pretty well on those. I’m looking forward to seeing where things go in this direction both on pc and on mobile as I have friends that have problems using sl on their pc’s and more mobile sl options are great

    Robert Foxchase

    December 18, 2014

  • What a waste of development time when you could have put it to use on something like, you know, your actual viewer.

    Onlive is shit. Get your priorities in order.

    Kit

    December 18, 2014

  • like,you know, they didn’t develop an Onlive viewer. It’s like…Firestorm…used with the Onlive service.
    When will people learn to read ?

    Mondy

    December 18, 2014

  • That ^

    Jessica Lyon

    December 18, 2014

  • Thank you for offering such constructive criticism and being so considerate to those who do benefit from this. It is not a waste of development time when you consider the people this helps and just because you aren’t one of them does not make it shit.

    Jessica Lyon

    December 18, 2014

  • […] can also read both the official press release from OnLive and the Firestorm’s team’s announcement to catch-up, if you need […]

  • It’s all fine and dandy, and when it works it’s quite nice. However Firestorm fails to launch 90% of the time while the SL viewer launches 98% of the time.

    So something is definitely wrong here. Still on the free trial, considering purchasing at least a month but … I’m not that convinced now. Also it would be nice to be access advanced/debug settings and seeing voice and local/texture/mesh uploads working as well.

    Cinderite

    December 18, 2014

  • All things we hope to have working in the next version, and we’re looking into the launch failures now. Thank you!

    Jessica Lyon

    December 18, 2014

  • Ah! I’m very glad this was mentioned because the login failure was driving me nuts. I submitted a support ticket with Onlive. I wasn’t sure if it was something on my end.
    Well when it did launch, it was great. I have a 5 year old iMac, and while the image quality is not as good just running around inward (for reasons already explained) it DOES allow me to take extremely high quality images and upload them to my flickr feed. Would I want to continue using the service for the next few years rather than invest in a new computer? No. But in the short term, it’s great until my husband and I have the budget for a new gaming PC next year.

    Tracy Redangel

    December 18, 2014

  • whoops, that should read *inworld* not inward

    Tracy Redangel

    December 18, 2014

  • *YAWNS*

    Is it gonna make my wobblers look less ‘lumpy’ , does u think , babes ?

    Ewa only got 2Mega bites connection , an that , ain’t she ??

    *Bored wiv Xmas already sooo ……tries novelty gadget , anyways*

    Laters E x x x

    Ewanme Botha

    December 18, 2014

  • P . S .

    IF U AIN’T GOT PAYPAL OR CREDIT CARD DON’T BOVVER , DARLIN .

    SHITTY CONS LIKE THIS REALLY PISSES ME OFF , DON’T IT ???

    Byeeeee E x x .

    Ewanme Botha

    December 18, 2014

  • Ok. I am one of those who have, among other machines, one that could be considered a 10 years old computer, in which I tested this thing.

    Being that I happen to work with Computers Assembly and Network Configuration, and thus I often travel overseas (outside my country of origin), here is what I can tell you.

    First of: it is very hard to have and KEEP a so-called “top of the line” computer because technology moves faster than one´s pocket (unless you´re at either Bill Gates or Michael Jackson level.)

    Second: if a person has means to purchase stuff in installments (credit card, bank slips, pre-dated checks or whatever is available on their country), they will profit far more and better paying these 10 bucks per month (I compared it to R$, US, NZ and AU dollars, Euros, BRL and some other converted currencies that I work with iRL) to have something of their own instead of only one stupid game that should be free in first place. For instance, if the problem is RAM, they could have 8GBDDR3 TODAY and see things better in SL AND other programs they run instead of crawl alongside a company whose resolution is limited at 750PX. If they can have a better motherboard, a faster processor, a brand new HD (space is always useful for legitimate creators), why invest this money in JUST SL? Unless, of course, SL has left the concept of a game or leisure in their lives to become some drug they cannot live without and need that as they´d need crack, heroin, or even cigarettes.

    So why telling people that even bothered to try the product, and that give their honest criticism, that they bitch and complain? FEEDBACK is not bitching, nor lack of gratitude. NO ONE is forced to love anything or to just STFU if they dislike. Feedback is to tell a creator what they are doing of good and bad alike, and any creator worth their shirt will FIX the issues, and not give up until they do something good that will reverse this process, and not bitch back that feedback is ungrateful and no one wants to do anything.

    Besides, the so-called ‘Freedom of Expression’ is not ONLY for flattery or telling the cotton-candy these people that cannot cope with criticism would like to hear. If someone will put something out there for the public, they need to get ready for those who will love as well as those who will hate. MP is full of those jerks that remove their crappy product and then re-upload WITHOUT fixing, just to get their money and get rid of the bad comment. If one cannot live with bad feedback, or have enough strength of character to try to fix the issue instead of calling feedback critics “ungrateful lot”, they shouldn’t be Creators or Customer Support employees; they should just go knit some baby shoes for their nieces’ new kid at home or work in the factory of daddy´s garage.

    Welcome to the world of freedom.

    PS: I have tested it at three different computers; one very old, one very new, and one more or less in between. Tested also with my smartphone and an European Tablet. And all I can say is that I hate that crap too. The reasons? Most of my fellows mentioned them above. Dear creator, work harder and make it better please. And start offering people a FREE beta-testing instead of offering a week free to charge ‘a week later’ (and of course making it hard to cancel, isn’t that what the smart-asses out there do?). If you start charging only if 98% of the feedback is good, you´re in it for more people willing to pay.

    Not sorry for the length.

    Luke

    December 18, 2014

  • @Ewanme
    Did you not see that one coming, dear?
    These days ‘Free’ can mean anything from ‘expensive’ to ‘not free, in the slightest.’ Basically, it’s fraud and, as such, this site should take those links down.
    A, free, seven-day trial should come with no strings attached. Perhaps their ‘product’ doesn’t stand up to the scrutiny of the few free people left on this planet?

    P.S. ALL these people are employed by Linden Labs but, then, you knew that anyway.

    Paul, the Psychic Octopus

    December 18, 2014

  • As i cant even try it i have to agree, can be a very good product for Usa, Uk or Canada but for the rest we will have to wait.
    And of course, those who can upgrade their desktops will always do a better deal.
    But some, do real take joy on it and others use it widely and on a day basis, so just another way to get in Second life for the ones that need and live where it works.

    zzpearlbottom

    December 18, 2014

  • +1

    Jessica Lyon

    December 18, 2014

  • @ Paul Octopus (Psychic)

    Givvus a kiss , u old fart 🙂

    Always E x x

    Ewanme Botha

    December 18, 2014

  • Ewanme, and uh.. Paul the Octopus? Thing is.. WordPress displays the IP addresses of those who comment in the comment approve panel. Like for example it shows me that you two are the same person.. uh.. talking to yourself?.. trolling… I just thought that was interesting is all. 😉

    Jessica Lyon

    December 18, 2014

  • COOOLIO , Jess !!

    Thx for heads-up , darlin x

    Luv P x x

    P . S . Seems rest of planet uses Disqus these days ;p

    Paul, the Psychic Octopus

    December 19, 2014

  • Ah! Trolling. There is a rather quaint notion.
    Here in the UK, being ahead of the curve and with millions switching off their computers in the search for something more interesting to do, we no longer distinguish between ‘trolls’ and ‘commenters.’
    Excepting ‘Mumsnet,’ perhaps, where the boundaries become slightly blurred.
    As is the case with the dead-tree press, people are switching off in their millions from online activity too. That may include SL or not.
    Every commenter, whether, in old money a troll, or in new, a hit on your site, is valued as another ‘click’ on the road to nowhere.
    I’m no expert and I certainly don’t spend my life gathering data but I’d say, bar Twitter (populated entirely by twats) and Facebook (the tool of choice for narcissists the world over), the Golden Age of the internet (and one that even Sir Tim Berners-Lee might subscribe to)
    has passed.
    As The Sixties were to music and the late-eighties were to MDMA: 2008/10 was the peak for Online Fascination. Including Second Life®, of course.
    Your average Linden/mini-Linden, with it’s head down over it’s pieces/keyboard, won’t have noticed this shift in the paradigm, I shouldn’t wonder.
    So, summarising: Trolls only exist in the imagination of the imaginer apart from on Mumsnet, where they are real.

    Jessica’s husky accent is quite sexy. Probably Canadian rather than an, aurally nerve-tingling, American?
    “Out” pronounced “Oot”; “Start as “Stirt”; “About” becomes “Aboot.”

    *SWOONS*

    titus finckter

    December 19, 2014

  • Okay i am having the same issues as a previous post. When it launches it works great, actually i am very impressed with the product, but sadly it fails to launch far too many times and when it does it resets all my settings to default. SL viewer seems to launch every time but i really dislike that viewer. Hopefully you can work the bugs out since i would gladly use Onlive when and if the firestorm viewer becomes more stable.

    Michelle

    December 18, 2014

  • Onlive have identified the cause of the launch failures and they are working on a fix.

    Whirly Fizzle

    December 19, 2014

  • Yes. There was a temporary issue yesterday for a few hours that disabled setting saves. It was fixed and setting are now back.

    Dennis

    December 19, 2014

  • From OnLive Q&A about supported countrys

    At this time, the OnLive Game Service is supported for these service regions: United States, Canada, the UK (England, Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales), the Netherlands and Nordic countries (Denmark, Finland, Norway and Sweden). If you are located outside of these supported regions, your experience may be impacted due to your distance from our data centers.

    https://onlive1.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/107/kw/country

    Dee Dee

    December 18, 2014

  • I always loved the concept, however it just seems expensive to me. I would sooner pay 120 bucks a year to the firestorm team then some service that’s not really buying me anything. Just saying.

    Jini

    December 19, 2014

  • I would really really rather have a stand-alone Firestorm app. I don’t like OnLive for many reasons, mostly because it’s expensive (Yes, it’s expensive) and because it’s clunky, and it’s just a remote desktop session. I get better results using Splashtop and remoting home if I want to get into SL, but I’d rather do it directly from my iPad.

    OnLive just isn’t the solution. Sorry guys, I know you’re trying. 🙁

    Carson Capelo

    December 19, 2014

  • This is a blurry piece of shit and a waste of time and money.

    Trix

    December 19, 2014

  • Don’t be fooled!
    Paying a 2 years period US$9.95 a month is about $240.
    For $240 you could easily buy a good used computer that will run SL native plus many other games and applications for over 2 years!

    Though, neither will fix a slow Internet Connection!

    Please create a mobile viewer like Lumiya on Android for iOS!
    http://lumiyaviewer.com

    marz

    December 20, 2014

  • “Easily” my ass. I wouldn’t offer my current system for less than $400 and that’s the minimum system I would try running anything recent on. And this thing’s at least 6 years old. Try at least 5, and even then who knows what SL will be like in that amount of time?

    DoomRater

    January 1, 2015

  • Free trial my ass.
    Why would I need to offer my payment info if it’s free.
    Nope, it’s a TRAP. Lure them in and suck them dry.

    As for the internet speed required, people here say, “Oh, you _only_ need 5Mbs.”
    Mhmm, right!
    I run SL perfectly on a 1Mbps crappy ADSL line, so it’s never going to work anyway with SLGo.

    Now, running SL on my phone or pad would be cool, but again, the $9.95 would be peanuts compared to what the phone providers would charge for the umpteen GB’s every day.

    I’d say it’s a SL No-Go

    Raph

    December 20, 2014

  • If they didn’t have some way to verify who you are, whats to stop you from creating a new trial account every 7 days and use their service for free forever? They require payment info to prevent people from exploiting their trial offer. If you cancel within the 7 day trial, they will not charge anything to your card.

    Jessica Lyon

    December 21, 2014

  • They could easily base it on your SL username and only allow a seven day trial to that username. If I’m excited enough about seeing SL in a higher resolution, I’m not going to go to the trouble of making a new alt and starting from scratch every seven days.

    Robert

    December 24, 2014

  • That is actually a really good idea! I’ll pitch that to OnLive after the holidays. They don’t have the infrastructure in place to check what SL account a user logs into but if they’re willing to invest a bit to make it so, it would probably be a good thing for everyone.

    Jessica Lyon

    December 27, 2014

  • I think the thing that irks people (it does me) is the automatic assumption that if you don’t specifically cancel that it should charge you after 7 days. What it ought to do is specifically ask if you wish to continue with the service and get your ok at that point. People lose track of how much time they have, there’s confusion over what time zone gets used, and RL sometimes happens. It would be easy enough to suspend service pending getting a go-ahead to charge them.

    I know it’s all in their TOS and whatever, but I refuse to do ‘free’ trials with companies that play the auto-charge game. If the service is good and works as advertised, they shouldn’t need to do that to make a profit. On the other hand, charge somebody who didn’t really want to continue, but didn’t cancel in time and they’ll badmouth the service forever even if it was only $10.

    Crim Mip

    December 31, 2014

  • […] pocos días el Equipo del Visor Firestorm, en su blog oficial, anunció que dicho visor se encuentra disponible como opción de visor en SL Go, en la plataforma […]

  • hey guys!

    can you clarify something in the help/wiki pages? in the ‘differences’ between firestorm and slgofirestorm, it says the advanced and developer menus are not available. but in other parts of the wiki, it says you can access RLVa, for example, on the advanced menu.

    uhm… if the advanced menu is not available, how can you access things on the advanced menu…??? 🙂

    Bloodsong

    December 21, 2014

  • You can enable RLVa in preferences > Firestorm > General [] Allow Remote Scripted Viewer Controls(RLVa)

    Jessica Lyon

    December 21, 2014

  • Bloodsong,

    I think they mean that the adv tab is available in the preferences, not the adv menu on the viewer…

    Aerynne

    December 21, 2014

  • […] Firestorm on SLGO! – A few weeks ago OnLive, the providers of SLGo, announced a new addition to the SLGo service: The Firestorm Viewer. Now you have a choice between the official viewer or firestorm viewer if you use SLGO to log into Second Life. Both teams, Firestorm & Onlive also had a special meeting earlier this week which can view on youtube and also Inara Pey has done a wonderful job of covering. Although I do not use the SLGO service myself, I have tried it out and I am a big fan of it. I think it’s a great alternative if you wish to SL on the Go or even if you don’t have a high end computer. […]

  • I saw that SLGo offered Firestorm and that was enough to make me try it out. Like other people who have commented on this post, I have a laptop that can no longer run SL and this now allows me to use it again.
    The biggest problem I had was navigating their website to find the actual program to download to my computer, but that was just me.
    After that, I found that it works pretty ok on my 4 year old Windows 7. I tested it in a crowed (25 avatars) area for an SL event. Although I didn’t get the 50fps as advertised, it was right around 20fps w/out shadows. Enabling that dropped it to about 12-15fps. A tad slow, but still very usable.
    One of the things I didn’t see until a few days later was the “Advanced Settings” options (this may have been missed by some of the people complaining about latency issues and blurry screens. You have to click “cancel” once you launch OnLive, then you can tweak settings such as “Bandwidth – Automatic or settings ranging from 3MBPS to 11MBPS. Three “Window Mode” settings, Windowed, Full Screen, or Full Screen Low Latency”. There’s also check boxes for “Netbook”, “Optimize for Wi-Fi”, “Play Audio in Background” (keeps you from losing an in-world audio stream when toggling windows), and “Vertical Sync”. There are also stats on that screen as well that includes Latency, Bandwidth, Packet Loss, and Decode Time. This information may help you to tweak the advance settings.
    The biggest thing I noticed while using the service was the screen becoming blurry and out of focusing quite a bit, but once I tweaked the bandwidth setting from “automatic” to 5MBPS things that happened far less often.
    The other major thing was that sometimes Firestorm would not launch or take an excessive amount of time before Firestorm would appear; something that can be frustrating for a service that you are paying for.
    In my opinion, one of the biggest hurdles of getting people into SL is its graphics requirements as most peoples’ computers are just not good enough.
    I haven’t tried it on a pad, tablet or smartphone as I don’t have any of these due to the screens being too small for my tired old eyes, but if you must get into SL for whatever reason and using a computer isn’t an option, then this will probably work ok, especially if you tweak the advance settings.
    For me, I don’t mind paying $10 a month for now, because spending several hundred dollars on a better computer isn’t an option at the moment.

    doctor Shackleton

    December 27, 2014

  • […] GO from Onlive was back in the news because they now offered the option to use the Firestorm client, which was a very sensible move. The Firestorm team were certainly excited about it […]

  • […] GO from Onlive was back in the news because they now offered the option to use the Firestorm client, which was a very sensible move. The Firestorm team were certainly excited about it […]

  • Downloaded it to my PC which is only a few years old and it’s like I’m walking around in a VHS quality home movie that has been posted to YouTube. The quality is not the great and choppy. Great idea though…if they can improve the quality. I won’t be paying 10 bucks a month for it in its current version. Good luck…maybe I’ll check again down the road!

    Rob Colter

    January 8, 2015

  • I really appreciate your work Firestorm-team. But concerning SLGO i have to add a comment which was written in 1599 ad
    at Stratford on avon: “Much Ado About Nothing”
    Happy new year though 😉

    Flash

    January 9, 2015

  • Ive been using SLGo for a few weeks now on different devices and I really really love it. It’s changed my SL experience for the best tbh. It does get a little blurry sometimes, but the experience is so much better than on my 8yo PC, which cant even handle a browser window and SL open at the same time. Its pretty nice being able to browse the marketplace/other sites while playing SL without crashing.

    The only issue I do have is that as of yesterday I can’t use Firestorm within OnLive anymore whatsoever?? It just loads and loads until it tells me it cant be used. It works with the SL viewer but Ive been using firestorm/phoenix for years and Im completely lost when using the SL viewer interface ; ; Im going to try reinstalling maybe.

    Anyways, 8/10!! I see alot of room for improvement but SLGo has been hugely useful to me. It’s become my main now :>

    Mari Ugimachi

    January 9, 2015

  • I also noticed that Firestorm will no longer load. This has been happening for a few days so I submitted a ticket to the tech support, and although they were fast to respond, here’s what they had to say:

    “Thank you for contacting OnLive Customer Service! We’re sorry you’re not able to login with our Firestorm viewer at this time. Our engineers are aware of the issue and are working on a resolution. For now, you should be able to login via the regular SL viewer. You may continue trying to load the Firestorm viewer from time to time and once you are able to load it, it should work from then on.”

    Looks like I’m paying to beta test! You would think that a professional IT service could get their problems resolved relatively quickly because who wants to listen to unhappy customers all day long?
    Perhaps they should have given us a free MONTH instead of a week; especially with this much downtime.

    I haven’t used the LL viewer in about 2 years and in that time, in my opinion, it’s become worse, not better.
    Also, I had trouble logging into the support site. What they don’t tell you is that your credentials for logging into the games don’t work. You have to create a separate account for the support site. UHG. It’s no wonder that people get frustrated.
    Whether I keep the service remains to be seen, especially if I can’t get to the Firestorm viewer.
    As of 6am SLT 1/10/15, it’s still not working.
    I will post an update when it does.

    doctor Shackleton

    January 10, 2015

  • i got more or less the same issue and response. It more or less fixed itself. However the viewer will not play media for me. I can’t open a box it won’t load the content. and my caps seem to stay on even after i have turned them off.
    All in all a lot of potential but clearly buggy

    Moon

    January 12, 2015

  • It is a known issue that inworld flash or quicktime media will not play with SLGO (either with Firestorm or the Linden viewer).
    Hopefully this functionality will be added soon.

    Whirly Fizzle

    January 13, 2015

  • ” I can’t open a box it won’t load the content.”

    Confirmed!
    I filed a bug report about this with Onlive.
    This bug seems to only affect Firestorm and not the Linden viewer (SLV).
    Thanks for reporting this!

    Whirly Fizzle

    January 13, 2015

  • Onlive found the cause of this problem and it should now be fixed for all those affected.
    The fix may have caused a settings reset to default settings. Onlive are looking into a script that may restore these settings for affected users.

    Whirly Fizzle

    January 14, 2015

  • All previous user settings should now be restored for affected users.

    Whirly Fizzle

    January 14, 2015

  • “….and my caps seem to stay on even after i have turned them off.”

    I can’t reproduce this.
    Are you just toggling your Caps Lock key on the keyboard to reproduce it?

    Whirly Fizzle

    January 13, 2015

  • After repeated attempts throughout the day, Firestorm is now finally working again for me.

    doctor Shackleton

    January 13, 2015

  • Hey Everyone, it’s Dennis from OnLive again.

    Really appreciate all the comments, good and bad. We’re doing our best to make this a great experience for those of you who would benefit from SL Go. But like I said before, it’s not for everyone.

    I must admit, we’ve had a few bumps in the road over the past few weeks. Firestorm and Second Life in general is not a “cloud friendly” application. It carries around a huge amount of saved data, which was playing havoc with our storage systems and services. We’ve been trying to find a compromise between user experience and compatibility with our complex service.

    Today we released a version that seems very stable and much more reliable. I’ve been in and out of world dozens of times with no errors. I’m really hoping that you will see the same out there.

    As always, if you have any issues, please contact support@onlive.com. I sit right across from these guys and we work very closely. If you have an issue, I will know about it.

    While I might not be able to respond to all comments personally, please keep them coming. It’s very helpful to hear everyone from the community.

    Dennis

    January 14, 2015

  • […] want to whizz around. However the results you experience may well vary. This is exemplified in the Firestorm blog post about their client being available on SL […]

  • […] are the two things that make my photography easier and better. Firestorm is available for SL Go (reference – Dec 2014). So, the Photo-Tools are available for SL Go […]

  • Hi,

    On the normal Firestorm viewer it is possible to use a AZERTY keyboard. This seems impossible on SLGO, the system always reverts to QWERTY !!! so unable to even connect without buying a new keyboard or gluing the equivalent keys. Is there another way to proceed ?

    Pierre Stein

    January 28, 2015

  • Hello,

    First, I am very happy with SLGO because it’s a good and cheap solution for old an low PC’s.

    I wish to reset the registered flickr account where I send my snaps because they not arrive there. I don’t find how to do that. Do I must process with a new SLGO installation ? Or is it a way to change the recorded Flickr account ?
    Thanks

    myrr lytton

    March 23, 2015

  • I think this should work.
    Login to your Flickr account that is registered in the viewer & go to https://www.flickr.com/services/auth/list.gne
    Revoke permissions for the Phoenix Firestorm Project.
    Logout of Flickr.
    In the viewer, go to Snapshot -> Post to Flickr
    Launch the “Authorize Firestorm” page when asked.
    Login to your other Flickr account you now want to use with the viewer and grant permissions.

    Whirly Fizzle

    March 23, 2015

  • This may seem like a trivial complaint/question, but when I signed up on my pc, is gave me a choice to use full screen which I did, but when I am using Sl Go, I cant get to anything else on my laptop now, I can’t minus the screen, I can’t do anything, how do I get rid of the full screen..I have gone thru everything in preferences, NOTHING works!
    Any help is appreciated! I would rather a smaller screen that not having access to nothing else the whole time I am on SL!

    Thanks

    Liv

    March 29, 2015

  • To toggle between fullscreen and windowed mode, use ALT+ENTER on Windows.
    If you want to stay full screen and access other programs on your laptop, use ALT+TAB. I think it’s probably the ALT+TAB option you are needing.

    Whirly Fizzle

    March 29, 2015

  • http://support.onlive.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/238/kw/sl%20go

    Looks like they’re closing down, bummer. Another small business swallowed by the big corps. This almost might have been the answer to the eternal Mac Cocoa bug (since LL will never fix it apparently:/).

    Piper Rewell

    April 3, 2015